Posted: 6:48 am Tuesday, January 14th, 2014

OT Greg Robinson or LB Anthony Barr? 

By D. Orlando Ledbetter

Dave Martin / Associated Press Auburn left tackle Greg Robinson received a first-round grade from the NFL Draft Advisory Board.

Dave Martin / Associated Press
Auburn left tackle Greg Robinson received a first-round grade from the NFL Draft Advisory Board.

Here’s the Falcons’ draft scenario for today.

OT Greg Robinson or LB Anthony Barr?

The Falcons are picking sixth and don’t want to trade up.

South Carolina defensive end Jadeveon Clowney and Texas A&M left tackle Jake Matthews are off the board.

Do the Falcons select Auburn offensive tackle Greg Robinson or UCLA linebacker Anthony Barr?

Our pal Jamie Dukes, on the Rick (Kamla) & Jamie show on 92.9 The Game on Monday said he likes Robinson over Matthews and would take him with the No. 6th pick.

Dukes, the former Falcon (1986-93) started 103 of 124 games in 10 season in the NFL, knows his line prospects.

Robinson, a massive 6-foot-5, 320-pounder, is a top-10 talent and is ESPN draft analyst Mel Kiper’s second-rated tackle.

 “Greg Robinson, a third-year sophomore left tackle at Auburn, has done a spectacular job,” Kiper said on a recent teleconference. “I love the way he goes out and just takes pride in his work. He’s a mature kid and professional in terms of his approach and his demeanor. He just has great talent at 6-5, 320. He’s light on his feet. He has everything that you want.”

Kiper has Robinson rated as the ninth-best player on his “Big Board.”

After former Falcons coach Jim Mora Jr. converted Barr to a linebacker, his career at UCLA took off. He had 13.5 sacks as a junior and returned for his senior season and had 10 sacks. He would fit in the Falcons’ defense at the hybrid defensive end/linebacker that Kroy Biermann was playing.

When Biermann went down last season, the Falcons had no one to play that spot. Barr has the speed to drop and cover, can come off the edge and play the run in a stout manner.

He has elite pass-rushing skills and one NFL Scout compared him to Green Bay’s Clay Matthews III.

It was pretty clear yesterday that the masses wanted Clowney over Matthews.

What if this scenario unfolds, Robinson or Barr?

UCLA linebacker Anthony Barr, left, sacks Southern California quarterback Matt Barkley during the second half of their NCAA college football game, Saturday, Nov. 17, 2012, in Pasadena, Calif. UCLA won 38-28. (AP Photo/Mark J. Terrill)

UCLA linebacker Anthony Barr, left, sacks Southern California quarterback Matt Barkley during the second half of their NCAA college football game, Saturday, Nov. 17, 2012, in Pasadena, Calif. UCLA won 38-28. (AP Photo/Mark J. Terrill)

140 comments
cdubb1545
cdubb1545

The Falcons should draft Louis Nix in round 1 and Mccullers in round 3. Get Gabe Jackson or Cyril Richardson with the 2nd round pick. 

RX
RX

Kony Ealy will be the highest rated pass rusher when we pick at #6.

xmgq
xmgq

With all the talk about Clowney or Barr. None of them are gonna work if we dont have push up the middle. That is why Louis Nix needs to be the first pick. SPace eaters- 1,3,5 technique player. Louis Nix would make the whole team better

TFalcon
TFalcon

@Monger I'M glad there is a few on here that see TD for what he really is,

But after next season I don't think anybody can deny what he is

TheMonger
TheMonger

 @McNasty

I respect your opinion, but disagree that Dimitroff is as great a GM as you say he is.  His whole Falcons tenure, as well as those 2 GM of the year (or whatever superficial award you say he won), was done with smoke and mirrors, which has been his bread and butter for the past 6 seasons.  You know darn well we have the worst offensive and defensive lines in the NFL, and you are going to sit here and defend this man, calling him "great".  I see he has you fooled as well.  Sure, he hits every once in a while on skill position players like Julio Jones, Matt Ryan, Michael Turner, and Tony Gonzalez, but once again I ask you, have you seen our trenches?  The lines are where football games are won and lost.  He has crippled this team by allowing the few decent players we had on the lines to walk away (Abraham, Dahl, McClure) and now we get to see Dimitroff's players he drafted start to play.  The best player on the defensive line (Babineux) and the best player on  the offensive line (Blalock) were not drafted by Dimitroff.  Coincidence?  I think not.  The players Dimitroff drafts or signs , maybe of high character and team leaders, but they are pathetic on the field to say the least.  I can't even list  them all without getting carpel tunnel syndrome but I will try.... Peter Konz, Really??  The guy benched 225 lbs. a meager 18 times at the draft, the weakest of all lineman and TD uses his first pick of the draft on the guy.  Garret Reynolds??  Lamar Holmes?? Mr. IR Sam Baker?  Mike Johnson?? Jeremy Trueblood? Sean Locklear??  This may be the worst Offensive Line in the history of the NFL.  The defensive line is even worse...

Massaqoui?  Sidbury?  Matthews?  Ray Edwards?  Who other than Corey Peters has he brought in that is even mediocre to start in the NFL?  He trades away Abraham who had 11.5 sacks this year, and brings in Osi Umenyiora who has 7.5 sacks?  Why not keep Abraham and sign Osi to complement him?  We had 2 UDFA's starting at linebacker for us this year, that is how thin the talent pool is on defense.  Dimitroff's 1st round pick, Sean Weatherspoon is always hurt.  These are the facts.  TD cut ties with a Pro Bowl caliber corner back in Brent Grimes and replaces him with 2 untested rookies this year.  That's why we are 4-12 and once again the laughing stock of the league.  Face facts.  FACE THE FACTS AND THE EMBARRASMENT THOMAS DIMITROFF HAS CAUSED THE LONG SUFFERING FALCON NATION!!!

- See more at: http://atlantafalcons.blog.ajc.com/2014/01/13/de-jadeveon-clowney-or-lt-jake-matthews/#sthash.OA4VPBHg.dpuf

GameOfSpades
GameOfSpades

I like Barr, but he doesn't fit the Falcons style of defense.... There are so many players coming out this this year that would fit almost perfectly into the 3-4 scheme this year, teams like the Steelers and Chargers must be foaming at the mouth right now.... I would rather the Falcons take Khalil Mack over Barr in all honestly.

BeastMode1
BeastMode1

The falcons offense scored enough points to win most of the games that they lost this season. I would focus this draft strickly on the defensive side of the ball. We neeed a defense that can stop somebody!

Chris R.
Chris R.

Main focus better be defense , None of these scrubs we have on "defense" could start on the 9ers or Seahawks , Draft Clowney ,Sign Byrd & go after Hardy or Orakpo. Release Decoud,Osi,Nicholas etc etc, Hell release the entire "defense" for all i care.

Leviathan
Leviathan

The Falcons would not use a Barr correctly IMO. Fortify the o-line with Robinson. Trade back if you think Robinson will be there at 12 and pick up an additional 2nd rd pick.

BobInSF
BobInSF

Anthony Barr was born to play in Nolan's D; he could easily slot into the DE/OLB hybrid role that Beirmann was supposed to fill and is a much better, faster and more explosive athlete than Kroy. Would be very happy if they took Barr.

hfc95
hfc95

I really hope HOU takes Clowney for the duo of Watt and Clowney, and I think Clowney being with a better player at his own position will take after JJ and his accountability will increase and HOU will get the most out of Clowney than any other team would. But I think the owner of HOU has his mind made up on making serious $ by drafting Manziel.


I"ve said before the Falcons need to trade back and amass picks this year and next. I think ATL will draft a T, and the margin of difference between Matthews(TA&M),Robinson(Aub),Richardson(Tenn),Lewann(MIch) is so minimal that ATL could trade back to the teens or 20s and grab one of them and have a solid 1st yr starter and be able to acquire more picks.


With ATL at #6 I believe there will be a few teams chomping to trade up to get a QB once Manziel or Bridgewater comes off the board.

Future Hendrix
Future Hendrix

Clowney has the potential to be the next Julius Peppers & possibly even better , Only a damn fool would pass on him , Guys like this do not come around often 

traderjoe9
traderjoe9

How much did the win over the Redskins cost us? Of course, with TD calling the shots, it may not make a difference.

grendelg
grendelg

Barr isn't as good as Khalil Mack. Mack is an athletic football player. Barr is an athlete who plays football. I think you'll see Mack go before Barr in the draft. 


I'd still take Robinson, though, and stick him in at RT. He'll be ready to take over for Baker in 2 years when we can afford to cut him, or he'll take over this year if Baker gets hurt and take his lumps. 

bffriel1
bffriel1

The Falcons need to pick defense with this pick period.

midwaycva41
midwaycva41

Linemen, linemen and MORE linemen.  Not LBs, not WRs, not DBs, not RBs.  Linemen!

decatur_g
decatur_g

DOL,

What did I say yesterday ?!?!?!?!?!?!!!!!!!!

 1st round - OT - J. Matthews (Texas A&M)/G. Robinson (Auburn)
2nd - DT or DE - R. Hageman (Minnesota)/W. Sutton (Arizona State)/A. Johnson (LSU)/K. Ealy (Mizzou)/M. Sams (Mizzou)
3rd - LB - C. Jones (Florida State)/J. Attaochu (GT)
4th - RB or WR - A. Williams (Boston College)/T. Gafney (Stanford)/WR D. Moncreif (Mississippi)/Jeremy Hill (LSU)** Falcons filter//


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Gotta protect the 100 Milllion dollar man. If we didn't have 3 DTs in free agency and need a talent upgrade and depth dvelopment for DE/OLB, I would have gone with a Guard in the 2nd round.


In round 4, RB J. Hill from LSU won't pass the Falcons filter, even with Blank issuing the meaner/nastier edict.

AtlBeast
AtlBeast

If we don't get Clowney you trade down probably with Detroit if they want Watkins and that would get us some quality picks and will probably still have either Barr Mack or Robinson left to draft which is a clear smart draft and holds the most value to the falcons. I think Clowney is the only player worth trading up for because once he posts his combine numbers everyone will want him instead of right now because he played his last year in South Carolina in a way to avoid an injury that would alter his nfl career. Any team that passes on him is stupid because they are missing out on a once in a generation type of player. But if we are unable to get him and trade down and still get Robinson then I'll be just as happy, rise up.

TeddyJackEddy
TeddyJackEddy

I'd take Robinson over any defensive player in this draft. I would consider taking K. Mack if I went for defense though.

Future Hendrix
Future Hendrix

We need a franchise DE , If you do not have one , You have nothing, Clowney would be the Julio Jones of the defense

BigIrishMike
BigIrishMike

It will make sense to take Barr since KB probably will have lost a half a step. Time to bulk him up and play every down as just a DE and coach the younger man and let him use his speed.

Future Hendrix
Future Hendrix

Clowney is gonna sell tickets & that is exactly what we need ,Tired of hearing how terrible of a fanbase Atlanta has ,We need an impact player on defense who strikes fear in opposing offenses & right now we don't have that just a bunch of defensive players who would be 2nd or 3rd string players on other top teams. 

Todd22
Todd22

@TheMonger you need to FACE THE FACTS. The Falcons have NEVER enjoyed 5 winning seasons in a row.  Not even back to back until Demetroff got here. He made a ton of mistakes in 2013 but I guarantee you the Falcons will be back in the playoffs again in 2014. You can't win in the NFL for 5 years straight without knowing what your doing. FACE THE FACTS.

JSSN
JSSN

@BobInSF  

"Anthony Barr was born to play in Nolan's D; he could easily slot into the DE/OLB hybrid role that Beirmann was supposed to fill and is a much better, faster and more explosive athlete than Kroy"


Wait a minute, Nolan has never let a rookie no matter how talented play in that spot. 

Boulware, Thomas in Baltimore, then Cameron Wake (who was a CFL veteran) in Miami. Nolan took nearly half a season to get Biermann right in reading and drops on the strong side. Go back and look, you'll be surprised.

GameOfSpades
GameOfSpades

@Future Hendrix 

I agree, but the key word is "potential"....but is he really the safest pick? I guess the same could be said about any player in the draft. Clowney has tons of potential, at the same time, he seems like he could be a bit of a head case. I'm starting to go back to my previous wish and hope that the Falcons simply trade down to a team looking to get a potential starting QB next season.... While some will say that players such as Clowney are one in a lifetime players, some also will say that players such as Kony Ealy, Trent Murphy, or even Stephon Truitt have the potential to be just as good, and if the Falcons were to trade down, they may perhaps have a better chance to get a well above average DE such as Murphy and a well above average LT such as Levian from Michigan, who knows? I guess that is the card game that GM's must play on draft day, hopefully this year, Thomas Dimtroff will not bring a hand full of hearts to a Spades game this year.

JSSN
JSSN

@grendelg 

Mack is not going to be there. It is an "either/or" situation between those young people. Much like when Jason Pierre-Paul came our, Barr just needs the right situation. Mack has NaVorro Bowman/Ahmed Brooks style tenacity and athletic ability. Unless he has some underlying medical issue, his stuck is going to fly at the combine.

GameOfSpades
GameOfSpades

@decatur_g 

Sounds good, but I just don't believe Ealy will be there by our pick in the second round 

ctfalconsfan
ctfalconsfan

@Future Hendrix Let's not insult Julio. Julio has a great work ethic and is a team player. You can't say that about the Clown man..

Chris R.
Chris R.

@Future Hendrix EXACTLY!!! Not one player on this terrible defense would be a starter on the 9ers or Seattle ,That's what i have been saying this whole time,Finally someone gets it

ctfalconsfan
ctfalconsfan

@Future Hendrix I don't think we need to sell tix.. We are fine there maybe that would be the idea for JAX but not ATL but I do agree we need an impact defensive player..

Future Hendrix
Future Hendrix

@traderjoe9 @Future Hendrix  People only question that because he played last season trying to avoid injury so he doesn't jeopardize his NFL future , Teams still had to triple him & run to the other side of the field to avoid him & try to take him out of the game,He has an effect on the game even when he isn't in on the play

JSSN
JSSN

@ctfalconsfan

But in the end, he's (Jones) not been on the field. He's only played 34 of the 48 possible games in his career! And as I told folks two years ago about Weatherspoon, you can't succeed with that in the hard cap era. 

Future Hendrix
Future Hendrix

@ctfalconsfan @Future Hendrix  I think you are just going by what you hear in the media about JD, Everytime i watched him play he was always the first one running to his teammates to congratulate them when they made a play,Saying he is not a team player is not true,Every interview he's saying "we" or the "team" never "i"

ctfalconsfan
ctfalconsfan

@Chris R. I wanted to dispute your crazy comment but as I think over it player by player you are unfortunately correct. A couple of our rookie free agent LB starters probably wouln't have even made the 9ers or hawks team..

xmgq
xmgq

@GameOfSpades Finally someone who knows football... We have no push or hold in the middle on both lines. All these DE and LB hybrid not gonna make a diffrence unless u got push up the middle my number one pick would be NiX from Notre Dame. Louis Nix

GameOfSpades
GameOfSpades

@ctfalconsfan@Future Hendrix@traderjoe9 

At the end of the day, if the Falcons do not get better at nose tackle, Clowney will not really matter.... If the Falcons do not get a true NT like McCullers from Tennesse, it will not matter if Clowney is "triple team", the defense will still be in some trouble ..... .The Falcons have an issue with getting push up the middle on both the D-Line and O-line, Babs is good and Osi is okay, but we need a push from the middle to help the MLB and clog up the run game. 

ctfalconsfan
ctfalconsfan

@Future Hendrix @traderjoe9 so how's he going to play in a contract year for us? Granted a good problem to have but is he going to sit out under a contract dispute.Signs a 5 year deal after 2 years wants more $$ and sits out..

Traderjoe gets it, "he's a wild card" Lets leave it at that..

JSSN
JSSN

@ctfalconsfan 

You know that you're describing Charles Haley? The Niners are still kicking themselves for not realizing it that he was just a malcontent. Every company or organization has them, the difference is that some people can work with anyone others need those who toe the line. 

JSSN
JSSN

@ctfalconsfan

It is all conjecture about Clowney's stock falling beyond the Top 4 until after the combine. If comes in and blows it up, otherwise, It was the Bridgewater #1 draft.

ctfalconsfan
ctfalconsfan

@JSSN @ctfalconsfan agree JSSN but there are obvious concerns with clowney is all I'm saying.

He was the #1 draft pick  pre season and now 5 or 6.. there's a reason.. You can't say there aren't concerns..

JSSN
JSSN

@ctfalconsfan 

When you are paying M-O-N-E-Y for results, it is all the same. They said the same thing about Ahmed Brooks coming out of college. Then there were players like Travis Frederick where people bad mouth his technique and work habits. He was the best thing the Cowboys did last season. Don't get so invested in those kids as good or bad. David Pollack was a great draft pick on paper. Still, he got his neck smashed and was out of the game. You got to see these things some time!

ctfalconsfan
ctfalconsfan

@Future Hendrix why the hate hendrix? If you can't support ur arguement no need to get personnal..

Future Hendrix
Future Hendrix

@ctfalconsfan It's fans like you that make me realize why this organization is as confused & lost as some of the fans 

ctfalconsfan
ctfalconsfan

@Future Hendrix true, but as a GM you have to take what a coach tells you with a grain of salt. What is spurrier going say? this kid is a mess? If that got out no top high school player would go to USC so spurrier will obviously praise him.

Hopefully clowney keeps getting speeding tix, maybe a dui as ATL will shy away from this type of person..

Future Hendrix
Future Hendrix

@ctfalconsfan  I think Dimitroff is gonna talk to Spurrier to see what kinda player/person Jadeveon really is because he obviously would know more about him than me or you

ctfalconsfan
ctfalconsfan

@JSSN @ctfalconsfan Agree but Julio is at least excused do to a legitimate injury while Clowney just wasn't feeling it.

You think those are the same?

You want to draft a player 6th overall who has that attitude in college then give him tens of millions of dollars and then do you think his attitude/work ethic will:

a) Improve

b) Worsen

I'm obviously banking on 'b'

JSSN
JSSN

@ctfalconsfan

SO? Did he play in the game? Injury or lack of commitment, if you're not available, then it is all the same! You don't have them! Come on, potential is unless if don't use it on the field!

ctfalconsfan
ctfalconsfan

@Future Hendrix @JSSN @ctfalconsfan Julio had a DOCUMENTED BROKEN FOOT/ or screw in his foot broken!! He didn't jog up to Coach Smith in warm ups and say I'm not feeling it today coach. I think I'm going to sit this one out.. That's the difference in the Clown vs Julio..