Posted: 7:16 am Monday, August 4th, 2014

Day 10: Falcons expected to shed some light on Hageman’s injury 

By D. Orlando Ledbetter

FLOWERY BRANCH – Back from Canton and ready for Day 10!

The training camp-train rolls on down the tracks, picking up some steam as it’s headed for exhibition game opener against the MIami Dolphins at 7 p.m. Friday at the Georgia Dome.

With the Tennessee Titans coming to town and the Falcons a little antsy over the fights, Ra’Shede Hageman’s injury and Terren Jones’ plight, it should be an interesting day at the Branch.

Falcons offensive line coach Mike Tice talks with players during Atlanta Falcons OTAs in Flowery Branch, Wednesday, May 28, 2014.  (By Kent D. Johnson/kjohnson@ajc.com)

Falcons offensive line coach Mike Tice talks with players during Atlanta Falcons OTAs in Flowery Branch, Wednesday, May 28, 2014. (By Kent D. Johnson/kjohnson@ajc.com)

The Falcons return to the field with a closed morning walk-through and a full practice — no live tackling — with the Titans that is open to the public at 3 p.m. today.

Jones left the field on a stretcher and was taken to the hospital in an ambulance. The team has not provided any updates on his status.

Hageman told people close to him that the injury was a hairline fracture, but that he would practice Monday with a cast. The Falcons later Sunday night said it was not a fracture.

Hopefully, we can get a full and accurate medical disclosure for the readers and fans on both of the players.

Hageman’s situation causes us to flash back to last season’s under-reporting by the team of Roddy White’s ankle sprain.

The problem is that the Falcons have a history of under-reporting injuries in the name of competitive balance. (BTW, they are not the only team in the league that does this.)

That goes back to Peria Jerry’s 2009 knee injury through Roddy White’s injury last season in the exhibition season. So, we have to scrutinize the team’s medical information.

So, I expect that coach Mike Smith will give us something. Perhaps even the MRI showing there’s no fracture.

That would be like “Christmas in August!”

Back to White.

After White was injured at Baltimore last season, the team insisted that the ankle sprain was not that severe. About three weeks later he tried to play in the season-opener against the Saints and clearly was not 100 percent.

After the game White revealed that he suffered a high right ankle sprain, a more severe injury that he was told would take a month to recover from.

White also later revealed the team’s rationale in under-reporting injuries and minimally complying with the league’s medical reporting rules.

After White finished the game with two catches for 19 yards, he went on a twitter rampage reminding his followers that he plays “real” football and not fantasy football.

White twitted: “No I can’t give out an injury report before the game. I play real football and it would be stupid to tip the other team off and say I’m hurt.”

After the game, White told the Atlanta Journal-Constitution how bad the injury really was: “Yeah. It’s hard to cut. It’s hard to do just about everything at the position. No excuses. When you go out there, you try to win.”

He said “it will be maybe a few more weeks before I can go out there and be myself.”

He was essentially a decoy.

Other than Hageman is a prized second-round draft pick and is expected to help the Falcons stop the run and win back the trenches this season, there’s no apparent reason to under-report the injury.

Also, assistant head coach/wide receivers Terry Robiskie, offensive line coach Mike Tice and running backs coach Gerald Brown are speaking to the media today.

Check back later for updates.

12 comments
zuzu331
zuzu331

Once again,JSS is full of it. Heres a link detailing the lawsuit brought by some 4500 former NFL players alleging underreporting and misrepresentation on the part of the ENTIRE NFL,not just 'three teams of which the Falcons are one of the worst'. Nowhere else online can that sentiment be found,not any players,coaches,no one. What this guy's problem is with this city,this team and it's fans is anyone's guess. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000235494/article/nfl-explayers-agree-to-765m-settlement-in-concussions-suit

doktrt
doktrt

Joe Hawley's helmet on Hageman's hand is probably the best lick he has put on a defenseman in his pro career. Why do these "stars" get hurt hitting benchers or should be benchers. At least hit a good player.

Dman
Dman

Glad it was Hagemans hand, his legs are the most important part of his game. He can play with a broken hand if needed.

keendaddy
keendaddy

DOL,

Any word on T.Jones, and what will his loss mean for our depth? If we lose him for an extended period, will the Birds be able to sign a replacement when OL start getting cut in about 3-4 weeks?

keendaddy
keendaddy

Just a little deception to confuse the fans. Pretty sure we haven't confused an opponent in a while...

AnsweredTHIS
AnsweredTHIS

Thanks for opening the the blog for the naysayers and the ones who always say " I told you so".  Darn DLed.  We know the Falcons do this, it is not a secret! But man have you ever opened the blog to allow many of the Falcons basher's to light it up this morning!


Wish him good health and lets move on...nothing new here!

RONSNO
RONSNO

Is it " under reporting" or out right lying? They all do it.

JSSN
JSSN

@zuzu331 

"Nowhere else online can that sentiment be found,not any players,coaches,no one. What this guy's problem is with this city,this team and it's fans is anyone's guess."

No problem with the City, but I have plenty of problems with someone who is just too lazy to really do research. It's not novel. You don't represent "all fans," just like I don't represent "all fans." I've never said otherwise, but I will say this, when you make "broad statements" at least be wise enough to get off of the Internet and actually crack open a study or two.

Like I always say: "ignorance will always get you in the end." Ask Peter King how that goes!

http://blogs.ajc.com/mark-bradley-blog/2011/08/30/buzzworthy-sis-peter-king-picks-falcons-to-win-super-bowl/

Here's the  reason your little witch hunts always fall on deaf ears. You make unsubstantiated points. The concussion lawsuit is a long-term issue. How did you miss the "series of NFL injury related lawsuits?" But this I have so many issues with you, it has nothing to do with "weekly injury reports" or with teams pattern in reporting.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8170900/player-suits-nfl-legal-strategies-take-form

Oh, I guess papers presented at the MIT's Sloan Sports Analytic Conference,, the Wall Street Journal, and Vegas handicappers all have some bias. Shame on me for always digging deeper!

http://harvardsportsanalysis.org/?p=4520

Watch the response (ZuZu and folks like him make), you'll see the difference.

JSSN
JSSN

@RONSNO

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/extra-points/2010/which-teams-over-or-under-report-injuries

Nope, they don't all do it and the League cracked down on it. The Falcons are among the 3 worse at it by far! It is one of the main reasons Tampa's old coach was shown the door! You do no one any favors in trying the subterfuge things that much. Send Roddy out as decoy, New Orleans knew after the third series what was up with Roddy. In hindsight, they should have just told the truth and rolled out Douglas in X receiver position. You do silly stuff like that when you don't trust your depth. It played exactly that way when they brought Brian Robiskie in off the street. He's neither an aid in the passing game or on special teams. It's a hot mess, it will be interesting when 'Hard Knocks' has access during those type of segments. I don’t wish anyone bad health, but the athletic performance section of this team fails them all the time. Roddy acts like there are some top secrets here, there are not. Even Belichick doesn't mask things as much as the Falcons! That should tell you something! They do themselves no favors in the long run.

zuzu331
zuzu331

@JSSN @zuzu331 It has everything to do with weekly injury reports and teams patterns of reporting. Your stated position was that the Atlanta Falcons are somehow one of the worst teams in the NFL in terms of underreporting and misrepresentation. Weekly injury reports and teams patterns of reporting,as well as the players lawsuit against the ENTIRE NFL,not just the Falcons,or against three teams in the NFL,show that assertion to be FALSE.

nahh nahhhh

zuzu331
zuzu331

@JSSN @zuzu331 I dont need to dig deeper,name drop MIT Sloan blah blah blah...to know youre a little kid just 'coming back' and 'coming back'. If youre a grown man you sure dont talk like one or act like one.If you want to nitpick Peter King,by all means,have at it! Post the exchanges here,big shot. Im sure that would be MOST entertaining. Insult,demean,spin and obfuscate all you want,it doesnt matter. My point was the Atlanta Falcons are not any worse than any other team in the NFL,as the Gigantic Lawsuit against the ENTIRE NFL proves. My point is valid and you as usual are Wrong.